DS raiding Hiatus

Our guild lost one of our tanks during the week and although not a major issue now given I am quite a capable tank, it has helped make the decision to place DS raiding on the back burner.

Between now and MoP we intend to raid wednesday nights doing older content – ICC 10 and 25 man mount achievements and possibly Ulduar.  We also want to try and get some guild runs done like BWD and BoT etc, for the achievements.  I wonder if I can convince the guys to do Firelands for some legendaries perhaps???

So although we are not doing DS, we still plan to do things every week.  In theory if we can get through ICC and Ulduar in 2 weeks (if we are achievement lucky) it will mean a few people have some damn awesome mounts and we can spend some time in FL getting me my embers – maybe we should do that 25 man for more embers?

For those that read my blog and may be interested in coming along we raid at 7.30 pm Australia Eastern Standard time (AEST) – HORDE.  These are runs focused on the mount achievements – so if you are interested please comment here or tweet me.  As it stands we will be short about 3 people regularly, possible more on each night for a 10 man group and heaps more for a 25 man group :p

I am pretty sure this coming Wednesday will be ICC  – no idea on the size as yet – probably 10 man unless we get an influx of people wanting to do 25 man.

Laid Back Raid Ulduar

I went on a LBR this morning to Ulduar 🙂

We started off with barely 10 of us and by the end we had swelled to 20, new people being added every couple of bosses or so.  It was pretty enjoyable, slightly scary to start off as JD was “tanking” (he had tank gear on right, that counts???) and all of us were stealing aggro like maniacs, I am surprised we didn’t have more death to be honest.  He was a trooper though!!

We killed everything except Yogg and Algalon.  Although we gave both of those bosses 1 attempt – I thought we should have given them each another try, given these are LBR people don’t know the fights, they come to them with very little experience and I think it is a little harsh to expect people to do the right thing first time in.

We wiped on FL as we left all the towers up – but I blame the game for that as my buttons could not be used during the fght from about halfway – I don’t remember ever having that issue, so perhaps it was a mechanic I have forgotten, but it seemed a little glitchy to me.  We then killed all the towers, or so we thought, and spanked him down with the freezing tower up.

We wiped on Ignis with so much damage going on not surprising really, and I think we only had one healer at that stage – correct me if I am wrong.  Then we got a couple more people in and killed him.  I spent most of the time in his crotch pot, which was sweaty and disgusting!!!

Razor we smashed out of this world – and killed her before she took off again, XT we killed the heart on and then managed to smack him to bits which was also pretty cool.  We killed the council without too much trouble although it was a little messy.

Kologarn we were trying to get the achievement for not killing his arms, but discovered that an unnamed guildie of mine was attacking the right arm instead of the chest, so we managed to kill him, but without the achievement 🙂  We went to Hodir next and managed to get both chests open on that one, I think people got caught in the first flash freeze, ut then after that it was just the NPC’s mainly, so that was pretty good if you ask me, it is one hell of a messy fight!  Auriya killed us by accident as we were taking too long in killing some adds, so we came back in and she layed some smack down on our tank – literally one hit wonder- I swear!!  We got her on the third attempt as we had a couple of others come in to supplement, and she went down like a sack of potatoes.

Freya got pulled before we were ready, and although we lasted quite a while, it was a little premature – given we left all three extras up for hard mode, so we reset her and then came back in and got her easily without the extra extra adds.  That is one hell of a messy fight and never ever ceases to amaze me!!  Then we did Thorim and spanked the bejesus out of him not very exciting at all, my guildies main concern was the lack of Jorgmunger at the start 🙂  Mimiron was easy, although I dc’d just as the middle bit started firing at me, and by the time I got back in I was dead in flames!!

I spent most of the fight wanding it up against General Vesax and just sort of doing nothing, then failed miserably on Yogg, I went in and killed the tentacles and then went insane because of the stupid stupid skull sucking insane thing.  Algalon, would have gone ok, except we had lost a fair few by then due to lunch, so we called it after the wipe on him.

All in all, I had a very very enjoyable run today, it was nice to just be chilling out and not really paying attention to much except having a laugh.  There were so many people getting achivements!!  It was amazing, I was so excited for them all to be getting them 🙂

The most embarrassing moment of course is me telling my hubby that Kerise was Kamalia and I was far too chicken to even talk to her….so he actually SAYS THAT in raid chat!

*embarrasmment crits for 1000000 overkill*

Then when she had to leave I got this whisper, and the coolest thing I could think of to say back…..was with a smiley face….seriously!??!!?  I suck!

There were a few other bloggers in there that I was all excited to see the names of, but I couldn’t bring up the courage to chat to them privately so I just stuck to chatting in raid chat 🙂

 

Green eyed monster :)

We cleared the rest of DS last night, overall was a pretty smooth run, one new person in that hadn’t seen the fights, but quick explanations later and we were done.

We wiped on ultraxion and one madness (at 8%). Grrr! We did pretty good dps as well, I am still disappointed with my output and really struggling to find the issue. I do wonder if I am comparing my expected figures to those wearing heroic gear too much again?

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Heroic Yorsahj…I just don’t understand it

I have never been afraid of asking for help, and perhaps one of you out there can answer me this in a way that is helpful.

Mana voids.

It makes absolutely no sense to me whatso ever to keep the void up at all.

So, before everyone jumps in guns blazing, let’s start from the beginning.

The theory as I understand it is as follows:

Get it to 30/20%, then waste your cooldowns to regen some mana back to wait for another mana void to spawn so you can pop back up to full mana after it has sucked out the last vestiges of the small amount your regen got you back.

Right?

Explain to me how that is better than:

Mana void sucks your mana, pew pew to 0%, mana back, still have personal cooldowns for regen when actually needed?

Perhaps I am only looking at this from an arcane mage perspective being I require full mana to pump out any sort of DPS thanks to our class design, but it seems awfully stupid that I have to waste my cool downs to get my mana back and therefore stuff up my entire rotation because it will give me full mana later when I won’t actually be able to do anything with it since my mana regen will be on cool down anyway?

How was that for a circle of confusion?

Of course this is all on the basis that in a random fight, we don’t actually know if we will even get another blue quickly enough and may actually have to kill the first one anyway…so why not just spend the extra 15 seconds killing it in the first place?

I really just don’t understand how it makes it any better – and yes, more than 6 people have tried to explain it to me and so far no one has succeeded in even understanding what I am trying to say.  So it just goes around in circles. I have also read pages and pages and pages as to why it is better and I still don’t see why it is actually better?  Is this a case of someone said it once and then everyone followed and then now its the thing to do?

Are there any other guilds out there clearing H Yorsahj and actually killing the mana voids as they spawn?  Input…I would love some 🙂

Sexism, heroics, and assertiveness.

All three things last night combined to make me one grouchy grouchy person.

Firstly, YAY – we killed Heroic Morchok!! We still need a couple of raiders as I had to pug 2 last night because one of our guildies got stuck at work and was not online until 30 minutes after raid start, and we are still missing another actual DPS.

I was quite proud we killed a heroic boss even though it was piss easy and in truth almost as easy as normal mode. Probably buff – but was it always that easy?

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Heroic BoT…wow (and other (drama) stuff)

The plan we have in mind is to kill Sinestra before MoP drops.  An easy enough thing to say on paper…blog…you know what I mean, not so easy in action.

Last night we went into DS to kill DW as we missed him last week, can i say butt kicked.  I thought it would take me longer to get pugs and blah blah.  Anyway, we were done in about 20 minutes.

Let’s take a few moment to talk about the drama of the night though 🙂

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Update on so much stuff

I know it has been a few days since I updated, I had to have emergency surgery on a re-ocurring problem, and although I am mostly ok, I am still recovering and have been some very bad raiding with great pain killers.

I did Onyxia 25 man with my frosties and some other famous people again, it was pretty awesome 🙂  I scored 3 different achievements. Many whelps, killing her fast and not geting hit with the deep breath…sadly, no mount dropped 😦

Of course, my screenshotter did not take pictures…so I got a new screenshot mod…so sick of the old one not working!!

We also did Ruby Sanctum.  The only raid I have never done, neither had hubby.  I thought it was a very cool fight for the 3 minutes of it that we saw before the boss died!

I was pretty happy finally seeing that one, I have wanted to do it for a very long time. HAPPY!

I also managed to do a laid back raid with JD and do Onyxia on alliance side 🙂  Also fun and very fast, we did it 10 man and she was dead before i really even had one rotation off.  LOL.

Our guild got to level 3!  DING!  and is about 46% through the next level. A certain famous person placed a toon in our guild as well and I got all mental about it…hubby thinks I am insane…but I was hooting like a maniac…just a shame I was in hospital when it happened.

We also went back into DS tonight to get the last two bosses.  We had some trouble on Spine, but in the end got it done.  So we have cleared DS with the guild.  We are going to try for some heroics next week, morchok definitely and also Yorashj and perhaps Ultrax.

I know we are at a 30% buff and that makes things pretty easy, it is still an untested group and we still have some issues to be worked out.  So I think given that, clearing the content is pretty impressive.  We want to get some heroics done before MoP just so we can test out our group I guess. It will also help level the guild, but in all honesty, I am not sure how much longer we will be raiding for anyway since MoP is so close now.   We still need 2 DPS as we are still pugging for raids, but it has only been a guild for 2 weeks I think, so we are not doing too badly.

Anyway, that is all my updates 🙂 Sorry for the long post, but i am still post-op and on good rugs so I have to get everything in whilst I can still actually mostly type 😀

Guilds first raid last night

So, I meant to post earlier but didn’t have a chance.  We managed to get a guild group going in – ie 8 members of the same guild.

The reason this happened was because I got chatting to a lovely pally, who had a warrior tank he was going to bring.  he asked his GL and decided to join our guild to help us out. I am not sure how long he will be with us, but his thoughtfulness and aid have given us a massive leg up in the guild achievements.  Reyspada – you are a legend and thank you so much for what you have done.  Also Serpentine and their GL Giga, you are awesome for letting us borrow Reyspada.

We had a couple of wipes on Ultrax, just silly things really people not watching things properly, then we got stumped by Spine.  We kept getting close, but not enough you know.

All in all though, we smashed through everything, and for a guild that has never run together, with a tank (me) that was less than perfect and mildly geared but surpassed by Reyspada, we did very well.

The healing was amazing.  Simply amazing.  I have no idea if any of my ex-guildies read this blog, but I was always dying on my pally.  Keeping me alive was a very hard thing to do.  However last night, the healers kept me going without me being worried more than once or twice.  They were generally because of my errors as well.  This gives me hope.

We had a fantastic Shammy in the run Tauper, he was funny and was top DPS all night.  Another awesome pug which I was happy to have found.  He has been added to the friends list as well.  I am a little concerned about the stories he was telling us – crocs in tool box etc….very disturbing.  But it was enjoyable.

We were really hoping we would get through DS last night, but unfortunately people were losing focus by Spine I think and we had random issues of people not running into the hole etc.

Considering it was our first run together, I think it was quite good.  We are going to try and get another run in this week to clear it out. A complete clear would be nice, but this way we can start working on heroics next week for the first couple of bosses and recruit for that. It makes us slightly more appealing as a guild than just new. I hope.

But – the most exciting thing – I didn’t call stuff out.  Very occasionally.  I wanted to make sure people were doing shit without me needing to coddle them, it was a relief to just be watching my shit and not thinking that others needed the help.

The guildies we have picked up seem to be very nice and I have to admit quite funny.  I think we will all get along well providing we can push content. No resting on our laurels!!

Sorry for the long post!

 

I think i got bored…

then I woke up and remembered how much more I have to get done in game.

Yes, I have WoW dreams. I also have dreams about Glee and karate.  I have “How to train your Dragon” dreams.

Life is sort of just chugging along at the moment, hubby and I have quested through Vash’j and Uldum on our shammy/pally combo – I think I have managed to get paid about 6k for all my questing in those 2 sections – including some LFD runs.

Well worth it to get the questing done I think.

I have been slowly improving on my shammy.  I am having the same issue on her though as my rogue.  I am just not used to not actually pressing buttons. It feels very unnatural to just let weapon damage occur – hopefully it won’t take too much longer to get used to it.

Hubby is turning into a very good tank 🙂  We have really only had one arse in a run and he spent more time talking than healing and then wondered why hubby was taking so much damage, then started bitching about that. Had he shut up and actually done his job it wouldn’t have been an issue, almost turned the hubby off the job. Tanking is a shit job in LFD though because people just abuse you without even giving you half a chance.

We have a guild website up now, you should check it out!  We are still adding bits and pieces to it 😀  I may be bringing my pally over, so we can do a raid next week – if we don’t find a tank by then of course, but i hope I don’t need to :p

The Dark Within is recruiting!

Oh yeah, I am spamming my blog for recruitment now!!  Like you wouldn’t :p

Please pass this info on, link to it, retweet it, just get it out there please blogosphere!

Hordeside Nagrand.

The current plan, so I am told, is to just raid Wednesday nights from 7-10pm Australian Eastern Standard Time until MoP details have been released and confirmed etc.  We want to use this time to build up the guild, the rapport within a raiding team and to produce a group that can be progression focused.  When MoP is released and we have a raiding force at level 90 we only want to add one day to the raiding times, but will depend on amount of content released and how well the team works together to get content cleared.

We are wanting people who can play their class and watch timers at the same time, who can get out of the fire and who can actually be part of guild life – including running older content for others in the team or for shits and giggles occasionally.

We are not recruiting AFKers, loot focused people or those who cannot spend their own time looking into boss fights to know what is expected of their role during that fight.

Non raiding, social members are more then welcome as well. Most of the guild is made up of couples (at the moment) with all bar one of us being over the 21 year old bracket.  We are not tolerant of bullying!  Be warned though we can be quite filthy and have trouble getting our minds out of the gutter.

The aim is to get our numbers up before MoP and our guild level up a little bit, we are almost level 2 now.

If you have read my blog at all, you will appreciate the kind of player I would like to raid with, and you know what kind of person I am in game.  So please feel free to ask me anything via comments or direct with my gmail email address of onyxiia.

 

Shammy bear and other news

Hubby and I stayed up until 3am last night…3AM!!!  Oh hell!

We got our toons to 85 though and then ran a couple of dungeons on them.

It is a little exciting, but my shammy is now 85!  His pally is also 85!

This makes it my 5th toon to max and his 3rd, with his druid about 30% left to 85 he is certainly catching me up.

I have really enjoyed just running around and playing with him to be honest, I miss it when he is not playing and I find immense satisfaction in us doing this together.

We chased a few achievements last night after we hit 85 since we were in the area.  I really have to fix that mod!!

Twilight quests complete

King of the mountain

I was going to make this a separate post, but then decided to shove it all in one as I am talking about him now anyway it seemed a fitting place to just continue on.  I have found the solution to my guild woes, I have joined a guild – wasn’t that fast?

My hubby has created a guild!  He is currently deciding on a few details at the moment, and it is early stages, but he has been thinking about doing this for a while now. He was one of the GM’s back in the day with out first first guild, so he is well familiar with the running of a guild and he is a no nonsense kind of guy with a very level head.

I am excited because my hubby is not the type to let people who can’t play stay as raiders.  He is an awesome player and to be fair all of our friends are very good players as well, so he has very little tolerance for people not being able to play their class well, I think I am excited most because he is such an eloquent person when he wants to be, I think finding a great team is not going to be easy, but if anyone can pull it off – he can.

So, with the above occurring, I have moved my mage over to be in his guild and left my other toons on AT for the moment, really only because the amounts add up when moving multiple toons around.  I am yet too pin him down as to raiding days etc, but I have gleaned that we will have loot rules (yay!) and more than likely suicide kings, I would say and it looks like only 2 days raiding at this stage for 3 hours…so maybe wed and Sun from 7/7.30 until 10/10.30 pm AEST – but this is all just rough as guts at the moment.

The new ME!

So one of the reasons we were up so late, was trying to get guild rep and experience etc to help get the guild started up – we got 22% through the first level, so that is a good sign if we can continue in the fashion 🙂  We are going to bring over our hunters next week (perhaps) as they are almost 70 and to level them to 85 would be a massive injection of guild experience. We are also going to finish questing in both Vashj and Uldum for the cash as we did neither of them whilst levelling 🙂  Extra Cash!!!

So if anyone has toons they want to stick into the guild on Nagrand – please feel free!  We won’t mind the levelling boost and I won’t mind the company whilst I level, quest and generally try and get some guild rep and experience happening.

Wish us luck, in the world of constant guilds being created we don’t want to just be another one, fingers crossed.

Bad Guild Juju and Looking for Guild.

I have just found out, that apparently – another mutiny is occurring in my alliance guild with different people this time – apparently the good players wanting to get rid of the bad players, and are asking for the GL to stand down so they can shake up the raid team.

I am just amazed at the amount of bad juju in this guild.  I must have cursed it or something when I left…I don’t remember doing any curses, but then my mage is very powerful and she is out of control sometimes….

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My first ever Sunwell!

After me logging the other night because of the asshats in my alliance guild, I logged onto my warrior and one of our guildies was going to be heading into Sunwell.  So I got an invite to tag along.  Even my hubby decided to come with us.

We never did Sunwell when it was current, we did one or two nights farming the trash – but we found that too hard for us. We started raiding late, and had we stuck with it back then we could have probably gotten to Sunwell eventually.

Anyway since then, I have done a whole bunch of pugs which never get passed the first boss and if I have joined after that boss, we never get passed Frosty.

The first boss was hard even now as it required communication about % of health.  We wiped the first time 😦  But then got it on the second.

We then smacked Brute and had a few attempts on Frosty.  Can I just say – what a pain in the arse that fight is/was!?!?!?

Song was telling us to look for him when he was up to see where the breath was, and I must confess I couldn’t even see the tard because I was chasing mobs. It was horrific. Mind you given it was my second time seeing that actual fight, I am not surprised I was clueless.  In the end we just had to burn through before the air phase – which we did.  It would have been tough when it was current content.

Muru was fantastic!  He was like a dark purple nurple adal – i loved it 🙂  From what I could tell of the fight, it would have been an interesting one in its day.

 

Then he turned into a massive void shadow thing and I was just enjoying myself so much 🙂 I had no idea what the hell was going on!

After that we headed to the big man to cleanse his evil from the empire :p

I was pretty ecstatic to have done this – I never thought I would ever see Sunwell.  I need to do it on my mage for the BC achievement – it’s the only one I am missing I think. This would have been spectacular in its day, along with all the raids of the BC era which had style! I am jealous at all the people who did get to see this content when it was current.

I am sorry we sucked a little Song, but thank you so much for taking us along for the ride. It means a lot that we got to see it.  Hubby has never seen past the first archway of trash 😀

My only regret was not realising I could have been a dragon for the fight – or some of it anyway.  I could have just flown around being all dragonlike and awesome.  So here is me after the boss kill anyway 😀

It was a fantastic end to what a horrific start of my raid night.

Are you a team player or not?

The title question is something every person has to answer at some point in their WoW raiding lives.

Are you a team player or not?

I am sure the answer would be different for every person, and their perception of the question and how to answer it would be based on their own life experiences.

**Warning – Strong violence, frequent bad language and adult themes**

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Cross realm raid – BWL

My first proper cross realm raid 🙂  I logged in yesterday morning as I had the day off and got thrown an invite almost straight away 🙂

I hadn’t been to BWL on my warrior 🙂

Scored an achievement, clearly I need to fix my mod as the above is a terrible image…LOL How can I even say what achievement I got??

We took a photo at Nef before we killed him and I wanted to say the 15 minute run through BWL was heaps of fun 🙂  My first cross realm raid was a success!   I like them.

Thanks for the run guys, you all kept me laughing!

Then I listened to twisted nether blogcast with Navimie 🙂  I had to run just before it finished because hubby needed to make a work call and my headphones weren’t plugged in.  It was fun sitting in the chat room with Cymre (!!) and some other guildies just chatting away.  The noodles though.  THE NOODLES!!!!  I swear, most painful hour with those ads!!

Purple Nurples and other addictions :D

Sorry for all the transmog posts lately….I blame JD 🙂  Yes yes!!

Tonight, I transmogged another olympic outfit…the Javelin, but whilst trolling around transmog sites and gear, I found the set I wanted for my warrior….the Revenant set!  All purple and  I chased down some quests which rewarded the items and I have to farm two bosses for my shoulders (Omor in Hellfire ramparts – who didn’t give it up tonight) and Kael in MgT – who I have to kill but can’t be bothered doing right now!  Thanks to McT for all the help he gave me and fantastic mogging talk 🙂

Of course my only issue is a mace now..all the ones I like are from heroic ICC or FL…so I have to lower my preferences 🙂  heheh  But i am calling him the purple nurple!!!

Onto other things, I took my Druid into LFR to heal…and I sucked…I really just don’t get druid healing…although I have only done it a couple of times so perhaps I am being too harsh on myself.  I may just give up on the healing.

My rogue is now level 20 and has riding skills 🙂  This makes me happy as running around it just killing my will to live.  I am not sure how far she will go, but anything is possible.

Hubby got his druid to 84 this morning, and we are currently on our pally/shammy combo trying to get them to 85 as they are fully rested now.  Funny tangent, we had them in a guild which no one ever spoke in – over 400 members and I think I had seen people speak in guild chat once…when I joined about 6 months ago.  So we left that guild today because we just got sick of the silence even when trying to get a conversation started.  About 1.5 minutes after leaving the guild, we get a guild invite to the same guild!!! A generic whisper saying our guild is looking for members, join us type thing, so we both messaged back something much less polite than “we just left your crap guild”.  I did giggle.

We are considering moving the 2 of them over to Dath to be with the frosties…not that we have discussed raiding at all, however hubby did mention that 2 raiding resto druids may not work so he needs another toon option (resto druid because I waffle about Navimie too much I think)….I find this interesting for 2 reasons :

1 – I may be able to convince him to raid if the team is not as unco as he currently experiences.

2 – I have not mentioned raiding at all except that they progressed well and seem to be quite competant.

I felt a little twinge of excitement when he said that because it gave me some hope. I may be able to raid with him horde side again…somewhere!! I had a happy!

My mage is feeling very unloved at the moment, and I do feel bad for her. I might try and do an olympic transmog for her now and see if I can’t give her some loving.

Transmogging and brain killer

Last night we went to DS, our intent was to do some heroic modes, we didn’t have enough people online so we did a normal run.

The alts vs main thing flared up AGAIN!!! I am so fucking sick of the argument and in truth I just wish they would call it quits with raiding until mop.

We had a pug rogue in the raid who was hassling our hunter for winning some vial trinket off yorsahj and I had to boot them because he kept hassling her. He then proceeded to mock us for our bad dps and being so shit…what’s funny is that we aren’t a guild who watches our dps or even really gives a shit about meters etc..The joke was on him really because we were completely uninsulted :).

The issue I have is that I agree with the rogue about the trinket…I am not entirely sure why hunters would use a trinket that procs a physical damage effect….do hunters even do physical damage? Yes I understand the agility is good for hunters, but same for rogues and shammies and more so because they benefit from the proc…can anyone clarify hunters for me?!?!?

I was outnumbered and when I explained about the proc I got told basically it was bis for hunters…sure?

Anyway, aside from that we only killed up to ultraxion after wiping the first time on him.

Transmogrify for the Olympics is killing my brain, I come up with outfits and then decide they aren’t good enough, do start again…I have to stop doing that. The competition has some of the best transmoggers competing though and I really feel I have to produce completely perfect concepts! Hehe I will get there though!

Alt run of shame

We did an alt run tonight because of the save to the DW kill. It was a pretty good run considering we had 8 alts in the run, we got the first four bosses down.

The shame I mention is my own. I was an awful raid leader tonight, I was so focused on trying to get my rotation as boomy that I wasn’t leading very well, so when I tried leading my rotation suffered. I couldn’t balance everything (no pun intended) but a boomy rotation is so different to a Mage. I do ok in LFR because I only need to watch my rotation and not anything else.

I healed on yorsahj because it was a little heavy for the healers, I sucked by the way. I gave it my best though and we got him down. I also called out badly on the colours which didn’t work and then we wiped, but then after copping shit for it, it didn’t wipe us the next time. Anyway, I guess something was different the other time, anyway I apologised profusely for my bad calls.

My DPS was barely above 16k all night, I have seen myself do much better, but I was just disappointed. If I want this o be my main in MoP, I have to be able to play the fucking thing better. My hubby however, jumped on his shammy and was fighting for top spot with 2 hunters, sitting at about 25k with pretty sub gear; he is so impressive as a player 🙂

Onto other things, hubby and I spent all day playing the shammy and paladin, we got them to 84! About 40% through, so not long to go :). We also have hubby’s druid to 83 and his tips were helping me in healing DS.

All in all an eventful night and I am exhausted.

Selfish and annoying

I confess, I was very angry tonight, in fact I had /gquit typed into my chat window I was so angry. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised it was my fault for being selfish, but I can’t help it – it angers me.

Since we killed DW a few weeks ago, I have been wanting to ensure our long term members get this kill as well, I have been pushing that agenda because I know people will start losing interest soon.

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