2 comments on “Still on Spine

  1. Don’t be so quick to toss the US out! There are always people raiding at odd hours. My guess is that those guilds tend to be pretty close knit as they don’t have much to choose from in trade if someone doesn’t show.

    Try doing fights without leading. Inform everyone ahead of time that they are on their own so make sure DMB/BigWig/whatever is up to date. Only call very specific things (such as calling who you want to use a brez or unexpected dispel) and let them flail about on their own. Do it on a fight they should know well, such as Morchok. Fail at it until they get it right.

    It might be a bit too much for the group (sounds like they aren’t keen on personal accountability so this one might sting), but think about getting a raid fail announce add on. If someone sits in Black Blood or fails to click the button on Ultraxxion it will notify the entire raid that person just fucked up and why. It should open some eyes as to why they aren’t progressing. Sometimes a little public shame is all it takes to get people back in line.

    Not every guild in the world is 8/8 regular but I bet the vast majority of the ones that are genuinely trying (and have put in the same hours as you) have downed Deathwing at least once. Unfortunately, it only takes 1-2 people in a 10-man group not trying to drag down the rest.

    Yes, some of the fights are DPS-races. But with 20% nerf in place you’ve got a pretty good margin for error. Cut yourself some slack about the DPS dip while raid leading and show them what you’ve got when trying the not-leading thing. Get them to focus on the fight mechanics, not their damage.

    • hehe I used to love the fail chat thing…for the life of me I can’t remember the one I used briefly…I am pretty sure it was in Ulduar? and I got slammed by the guild for having it, a couple of people were very vocal about it being very detrimental to the overall guilds morale.

      I think the major issue is that people in our guild want the progression – they want to down content but they want to raid with friends and just enjoy themselves. I am not saying the two can’t work together in some guilds, but you would need everyone playing to their strengths and not on toons they are not suited to (in my humble opinion). It doesn’t work like that in our guild, we have people playing toons they really aren’t all that good on, simply because that’s the spec/toon they enjoy playing the most. It is almost a walking contradiction.

      I might try the no raid leading thing with advance warning though – it would depend on everyone being able to just follow that and not start calling things out themselves. I know if I am not constantly talking others start calling out what needs to be done. I like that idea immensely :) Then everyone could just talk crap and we could just roll through the bosses….lol…maybe :D

      Yeah some fights are dps races – but not really all that many, and it isn’t hard to get that little bit more out of a toon with a little tweaking after the first night when you can clearly see you need more. Maybe that is more for experienced and passionate people though – who understand the game/mechanics? I don’t know.

      I will also reevaluate the US guilds, I had not thought of the tight knit groups that would form if they had weird hours, which could be very nice. Thanks for pointing that out!!

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